Some Ponderings On That Roswell UFO Incident (July 1947): Part One

The UFO-related Roswell event (July 1947) was one of only a select few UFO events that has both extremely high credibility (professional military officers as witnesses – plural) as well as extremely high strangeness in the form of actual physical stuff for analysis on the slab in the lab. Alas, the downside is that the very nature of the Roswell event was never a scientific issue but always a highly classified and ongoing national security issue. Thus, you don’t get to know about that slab in the lab analysis.

Regarding the Roswell Event

The 1947 Roswell Incident tends to be the event that has triggered a lot of these dead aliens, etc. issue. Many of the first-hand eye-witnesses have gone on the record, including deathbed affidavits attesting to the reality of the Roswell Incident. You can find some relevant eye-witness interviews on YouTube. There are also many excellent hardcore books written by serious investigators that attest to the truth behind the Roswell Incident. Alas, Roswell was in 1947 and was quickly forgotten and given no renewed attention until 1980 when the first of now many Roswell books came to light. In that interval many witnesses moved and traces of whereabouts were lost. Others refused to talk. Others passed away before Roswell became topical. That’s certainly the case now. Just about anyone and everyone present and accounted for then is now dead. It’s rather hard to show up now to bear witness to the event when your six feet under. Others who might be alive and kickin’ today, those in the loop, would be rather foolish to open their mouths. There are very, very, very severe penalties for releasing classified information, and Roswell, if it’s really an accurate event dealing with an extraterrestrial crash, falls into that category. You’ve heard the quote “we’ve ways of making you talk”? Well the opposite is also true.

Roswell and the FBI

Here’s some proof about the Roswell pudding. A little while ago I dropped a bit of a bombshell when I noted that formerly classified, now declassified FBI documents show that former FBI Director, the late J. Edgar Hoover, while actually in his capacity as Director, acknowledged that the (then) Army Air Forces (AAF) were in possession of crashed disks – disks being the alternative description to saucers, words that were in vogue before the term UFO was invented. These documents (plural) were issued just a few days after the Roswell incident (July 1947). Alas, not one peep was heard out of Roswell sceptics. Perhaps that revelation ended up in their too-hard-basket. So, how do they explain this statement by Mr. Hoover? In fact how do they explain the entire Roswell incident in light of the fact that the official line of unclassified public relations explanations (plural) – there have been many and that in itself is more than just a little bit suspect – have all proved to be ridiculous?

The armed forces clearly aren’t opening up about Roswell, especially the USAF, but a declassified FBI office memorandum dated 22 March 1950 and addressed to Hoover notes that there were three “flying saucers’ recovered in New Mexico, and, as noted above, an FBI telex message from Dallas, Texas to Hoover dated 8 July 1947 confirms that the Roswell debris was sent to Wright Field “by special plane for examination”.

Roswell and Terrestrial Flying Disks

In 1947 we (Royal We) had no “disks”. All later on down the track experiments with saucer-shaped aircraft failed – totally failed to be viable. There are no, and never have been any terrestrial “disks” that could operate in any shape, manner or form to that reported by observers of what we now call UFOs. So, the bottom line, in July 1947, if the military say they came into possession of a crashed “disk”, it was not, could not, have been terrestrial. If these crashed “disks” were not terrestrial, what’s the alternative?

Just for the sake of completeness, I have to retract slightly and acknowledge that there was the U.S. Navy’s “Flying Flapjack” (XF5U, nee the Vought V-173 “Flying Pancake”) which was cancelled in March 1947 as being over-budget and taking way, way, way too long to develop. Being propeller driven, it was already outdated with jet engines now coming to the fore. It, only one of each was ever built, neither never made a true flight and never left its home state of Connecticut. Further, the fate of each is known. One was destroyed and the other is in a museum, on display. It’s not the answer to Roswell.

Roswell and the Alien Bodies

Now the other side to the Roswell coin, a side not absolutely required to prove the existence of ET, were the reports of alien bodies. I personally don’t care if there were bodies or not. The crashed “disks” alone are a smoking gun. However, what’s very, very interesting is that the USAF though it somehow necessary to explain away these alien bodies. In providing an explanation, they lend credibility to the reliability of those witness accounts of their being bodies. The USAF explanation was that these alien bodies were really just crash-test dummies that were tossed out of aircraft testing new parachute designs, etc. However, a bit of fact-checking quickly revealed a major “OOPS”. The crash-test dummy programme didn’t happen until several years after the Roswell incident. Oops indeed.

If there be aliens associated with the Roswell event, well sceptics will scream “Show me the Roswell aliens!!!” Of course instead of you going to see the ETs, perhaps the ETs might come and see you, or rather abduct you! Seriously, if you have no need to know about the nature of the Roswell debris, you also have no need to know about any associated extraterrestrial biological entities (EBEs) otherwise more commonly called ‘aliens’.

If sceptics want to negate the UFO extraterrestrial hypothesis (ETH), they had better come up with some darn good answers, some very convincing explanations, for the Roswell alien bodies, close encounters of the third kind, and the entire alien abduction phenomena. Good luck to them!

The Roswell Press Release

Actually in the original Roswell press release, the military said neither “terrestrial” nor “extraterrestrial”. But they did say “flying disc” and there was no such terrestrial aeronautical device as a “flying disc” in July 1947. Here is the actual media release.

The RAAF (Roswell Army Air Field) Media Release (8 July 1947)

“The many rumors regarding the flying disc became a reality yesterday when the intelligence office of the 509th Bomb Group of the Eighth Air Force, Roswell Army Air Field, was fortunate enough to gain possession of a disc through the cooperation of one of the local ranchers and the sheriff’s office of Chaves County”.

“The flying object landed on a ranch near Roswell sometime last week. Not having phone facilities, the rancher stored the disc until such time as he was able to contact the sheriff’s office, who in turn notified Maj. Jesse A. Marcel of the 509th Bomb Group Intelligence Office.”

“Action was immediately taken and the disc was picked up at the rancher’s home. It was inspected at the Roswell Army Air Field and subsequently loaned by Major Marcel to higher headquarters.”

It’s an historical (on or for the record) fact that this military document existed – no fraud or fakery can be alleged. That the press release received reasonably widespread national, even international media (radio and newspaper) coverage is not in dispute. That too is an historical fact with no allowance for any wriggle room. The most oft displayed newspaper headline and associated article text reproduced in books and websites is from the Roswell Daily Record, 8 July 1947 – “RAAF Captures Flying Saucer On Ranch in Roswell Region: No Details of Flying Disk Are Revealed”.

Roswell and the Late Senator Barry Goldwater

“Higher headquarters” was apparently Wright Field, now known as Wright-Patterson AFB. Now you might be interested in what happened to the late Senator Barry Goldwater (Arizona), who was also the GOP candidate for president in 1964, and also a Major-General in the USAF (Reserve). Senator Goldwater was very interested in the Roswell UFO question, and he tried to gain access to the inner sanctums at Wright-Patterson AFB to check out the stories of UFO (“flying disc”) remains and alien bodies there. He was basically told to “piss off” – access denied – by his friend, Air Force General Curtis E. LeMay. Now all of that is on the public record. Sceptics got to ask themselves why such a high-ranking and senior American political figure was given the middle-finger. What was at Wright-Patterson that the powers-that-be didn’t want Goldwater to see?

Now as has been pointed out by sceptics, Goldwater did not have a “need to know” about Roswell. Yes indeed, Goldwater did not have a “need to know”. That means there must have been something to know that Goldwater wasn’t told or couldn’t be told. Since Goldwater was interested in Roswell crash debris and/or associated alien bodies, there must have been an actual something to know about those subjects. That Goldwater was told to cease and desist, that in itself tells you that there was structure and substance to his request. If there were no Roswell crash debris and/or no alien bodies, Goldwater would have been given the grand tour and the end of his quest would be at hand. There would have been a happy ever after ending. Alas, it was not to be.

Roswell and Your Need to Know

People always ask, if Roswell was the smoking gun that proves the UFO extraterrestrial hypothesis (ETH) where can I see the proof? Now where can you (the Royal You) go to see actual proof, well I’m of the opinion that the Roswell incident is factual as originally related and so you (the Royal You), can NOT see that stuff because you (the Royal You) do NOT have a need to know. There are hundreds of parallels with other stuff that you (the Royal You) can NOT see and do NOT have access to. The great unwashed and Roswell sceptics can throw temper tantrums all they wish but that’s the way classified stuff is dealt with. You’ll just have to cool your heels a while longer. Perhaps in the meantime such sceptics should have a good lie down and just calm down.

If you want THE answer, if you want to see the good stuff, well this is THE answer in a nutshell: Roswell, Roswell, Roswell, Roswell, Roswell and Roswell. If Roswell happened as related, then all else follows as sure as night follows day follows night. It’s the closest you are going to get to the smoking gun. Goldwater proved that when he tried to gain access to the inner sanctum of Wright-Patterson AFB. You just try waltzing up to the front gate of Area 51 (unlikely as you’d probably be terminated with extreme prejudice before you ever made it that far) and demand to be shown what’s inside (which doesn’t have to be UFO related) and see how far you get. This entire universe wasn’t brought into existence just to cater to the whims and wants of those who feel they have a right-to-know. The powers-that-be will take not the slightest interest in such demands.

Roswell and the Brazel Ranch

# The question has been asked about where could a large crashed disk or all of the bits and pieces be stored as was reported before the military took possession? Actually the discover of the debris, the rancher in question, William W. Brazel, wasn’t the owner of the ranch in question, just the foreman, but the key word here is “ranch”. A ranch has lots and lots and lots of room, like a very large barn perhaps. We’re not talking traditional family home here on a quarter-acre block.

Roswell and the Government Accounting Office

# Now here’s a very interesting document which you can find on the WWW though it’s available in hard-copy too (which I have). The document is titled: “Government Records: Results of a Search for Records Concerning the 1947 Crash Near Roswell, New Mexico” (July 1995). The “search” was conducted by and the report issued by the U.S. Government Accounting Office (GAO) at the request of the Honourable Steven H. Schiff, House of Representatives; United States Congress. The GAO is the independent investigative fact-finding branch of the American Congress. Three interesting things here: Firstly, relevant records from the Roswell Army Air Field for the relevant period (July 1947) have been destroyed – illegally by the way. There’s no record of who destroyed them or under what authority they were destroyed. Why am I not surprised! Secondly, some documents from other agencies were mysteriously unavailable or missing without explanation. Why am I not surprised! Thirdly, an FBI document issued one day after the Roswell event noted that the material collected was being sent to Wright Field (now Wright-Patterson AFB) for analysis (why analysis if it was just a crashed weather balloon is beyond me), yet the GAO found no associated records at the receiving end. Why am I not surprised! All very mysterious, yet this is official U.S. Government document; independent documentation made at the request of a Member of the U.S. Congress, the above mentioned Steven H. Schiff!

Roswell and the Case of Mistaken Identity

For all of the dozens of book, hundreds of articles and millions of words written about Roswell, the entire incident (which cannot be disputed) and its explanation (which sceptics have disputed), ultimately boils down to and revolves around one and only one point. That point is, is it even REMOTELY POSSIBLE that the ranch foreman who discovered the Roswell debris (and who testified that he had on several previous occasions found balloon remains on the sprawling property and thus was familiar with balloon materials) and who alerted the police (that this was something strange) who in turn alerted the military, coupled in addition with a group of senior military officers, including the base intelligence officer, could MISTAKE balloon materials – weather or Project Mogul – for a “flying disc”? Those on the spot called it a “flying disc” (an alternate phrase for “flying saucer”). Those hundreds of miles away, but of superior rank, ordered the terminology “balloon” debris or fragments be substituted, thus a “balloon”, weather initially but later changed to a Project Mogul balloon train, became the official explanation.

It’s a bit like you emailing me that you saw a white cat in your front yard but I reply, from 400-500 miles away that, no, you saw a black dog in your back yard and that’s the story you will adopt from here on in. Now who is more credible – you the witness who saw the white cat in the front yard and who was on the spot, or me, the ‘witness’ hundreds of miles away? That’s the analogy with Roswell, Day One.

Now I have relatively little faith in some people’s cognitive abilities, but I do honestly believe even they could tell the difference between balloon materials and a “flying disc”, even “flying disc” debris.

If military offices could be so incompetent as to fail to distinguish balloon debris from “flying disc” fragments, then I fail to understand how we could have won WWII!

Roswell Witness Reliability

Were the Roswell witnesses “unreliable”? The absolute last thing you want your military officers to be is “unreliable”. You might recall that the personnel at the Roswell Army Air Field were, in 1947, the ONLY military personnel charged with the responsibility for minding and safeguarding America’s atomic arsenal. They had darn well better not have been “unreliable”. And just what the heck does “unreliable” have to do with being able to tell the difference between balloon debris and the debris from a “flying disc”? You might be “unreliable” in showing up for work on time, but reliable in being able to tell an elephant apart from a dog!

There also is no “belief” issue when you hold the physical materials in your hand. If you hold a glass in your hand is that glass a matter of “belief”? Those physical materials, the actual debris retrieved, were absolutely “serious evidence”. The “serious evidence” is not in question. Quite apart from the bodies that were found, and on-the-spot witnesses have so testified that there were bodies, there was no evidence, no suggestion, that what was found was manufactured here on Earth. On-the-spot witnesses have so testified to the “out-of-this-world” nature of the Roswell debris.

In any event, who are armchair sceptics to judge what did or did not happen at Roswell in July 1947? Who are armchair sceptics to judge the reliability of the personnel stationed at Roswell in July 1947? Armchair sceptics were NOT there. Armchair sceptics have NOT seen the evidence. Armchair sceptics do NOT know any of the personnel who were first-person witnesses. Armchair sceptics sit in their armchairs some 68 years after-the-fact and presume to KNOW everything there is to KNOW on the subject.

If anyone is prepared to deny the Roswell event as originally reported then they had better be prepared to call an awful lot of witnesses liars, people who have gone on-the-record (usually post retirement) with interviews and signed, even deathbed affidavits. Further, they had better be prepared to back up their statements and claims with their own documentation.

Sceptics have no moral right to call the Roswell witnesses “unreliable” – especially now that they are all deceased and cannot defend themselves – just because they want it to be so. By the way, those various statements and affidavits by witnesses to the Roswell incident that testify to the out-of-this-world nature of the debris and/or the alien bodies are admissible in any court of law as EVIDENCE! The facts remain, that they were there and the sceptics weren’t there so they were in a far, far, far better position to judge the merits of the debris than sceptics could ever be. Also by the way, you don’t need to have a “belief” in Zeus if you are standing right in front of him having a chin-wag. If you hold the physical evidence in your hands, as in the case of Roswell, your “belief” in that evidence is irrelevant. That however is not quite the same thing as saying your belief in the nature of that evidence is fixed in stone – that belief might be flawed.

Here’s a trilogy of reasons why Roswell witnesses are credible and Roswell sceptics are not credible.

1) They were there, sceptics weren’t! Therefore I believe them, not the sceptics!

2) They were there, sceptics weren’t! Therefore I believe them, not the sceptics!

3) They were there, sceptics weren’t! Therefore I believe them, not the sceptics!

And another reason: Sceptics have rarely done independent research on Roswell, in fact from what I can tell most sceptics have done no research on Roswell at all – period!

To Be Continued…

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